@SadElder: The polio vaccine was never mandated until it was proven safe, even then there were protests and to date there are groups of people (Amish etc) that don't vaccinate. Nobody ever cared that they didn't though, if you're scared about getting sick, get vaccinated, if you're not, you don't. There is no reason to say you HAVE to vaccinate against a flu-like disease, if you think people will die, that's on them isn't it?
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Get Vaccinated or Get laid Off
by StephaneLaliberte ini’m personally for the vaccine, took two shots and would take a third if asked.
but i know a friend of mine that doesn’t want to take the vaccine who works for the government and now is faced with this choice: get vaccinated or get laid off.
i don’t agree with this measure as it is totalitarian and runs against my core belief in individual freedom.. now, with that being said, what i don’t understand is that my friend still won’t get vaccinated.
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In the beginning, God created heaven and earth. I couldn't get past that.
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Good News : Delta is Dying
by Sea Breeze indelta is dying.
new cdc findings show that we’re closer than ever to the end of the pandemic..
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@slimboyfat: that’s what they did in the EU, as a result, the EU developed no treatment, the US paid EU manufacturers to create the patented treatments we have today. Biden was going to do the same thing by making the patents open, he quickly turned around because the manufacturers said they would simply halt production and let others develop them, then Joe found out there is nowhere near the necessary capacity in any other system. If there is no incentive, nobody will develop the cure.
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Should Biden Have Mandated Vaccinations Today?
by Sea Breeze inbiden mandated widespread covid shots today.. "we've been patient," biden announced.
"but our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us.".
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@thomascovenant:
In 1900, 30 percent of all deaths in the United States occurred in children less than 5 years of age compared to just 1.4 percent in 1999 (CDC, 1999a; NCHS, 2001a). In 1800s infant mortality was 46%, so nearly half the children born died before 5. Most of those in the early 1900s were from polio, MMR and the other childhood diseases we vaccinated away, antibiotics at that point were the invention of the 1800s, vaccines were those of the 1900s and were nearly 100% effective.
Hence why families had 8-12 children, just to have spares on hand.
look at India and other places where these vaccines aren’t prevalent to see what it was like before 1950.
Almost everyone alive today in the West has no clue what it was like to grow up around death so now when 0.1% of the population dies a few years prematurely, we freak out and let the government take away all of our freedoms. And we mandate vaccines that are ~50-80% effective, not at preventing death but “reducing the symptoms”.
The average age of death was 37, not because people didn’t grow to their 70s, they still did, but a TON of people, primarily children died before that. Ask your grandparents and great grandparents if they’re still around, almost everyone had a child die, this was a normal way of life.
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Jehovah GOD a failed GOD in many respects.
by smiddy3 inisn`t there enough evidence to acknowledge the god of the bible has been a failure ?according to wt / jw teachings ?.
a god that has supposed to have created the visible universe and everything in it ?.
some points where i would challenge that from an earthlings point of view using the bible if only in paraphrase.. doesn`t god create everything perfect ?
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@sea breeze: there is a fourth option - God could allow evil to happen (let’s say evil was a free will thing) but protects the innocent and punishes the evil ones.
If a god has perfect judgment, why do we on earth do so much better at judging even as flawed as it is.
God may judge sin, he doesn’t execute any judgements when it is relevant.
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"Seven nations more populous than you are"
by FFGhost ini wrote this up a few months ago:.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5087628499091456/camp-israel-problem-pooping.
this other little nugget from deuteronomy caught my eye as well:.
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The WT is quite right if they take a literal approach to the Bible.
Shortly after they left Egypt, in Numbers it says a census was taken that says there were ~600,000 men that could fight. If you account for the men that couldn’t fight, the women and children, 2 million is indeed a decent estimate.
Obviously the entire population on earth back then was 3-4M people, so not sure why they left Egypt, they could’ve just overrun it, they would’ve outnumbered just about any population from there purely through growth and we’d all be Jews today.
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unofficial JW music
by neat blue dog indoes anybody remember some super cheesy jw pop music from the 80s and/or 90s being sold on cassette by stoops?
i remember there was a family with the last name of arkenberg involved in production among others but i can't find a thing about it online..
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Real Theocratic Heroes is the only JW “band” I ever heard and it was rather making fun of things. I have the MP3 somewhere still.
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Should Biden Have Mandated Vaccinations Today?
by Sea Breeze inbiden mandated widespread covid shots today.. "we've been patient," biden announced.
"but our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us.".
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Let’s say this passes, what is the limit on OSHA to not regulate every aspect of your business. Because OSHA is an unelected bureaucracy that can act without any authority given by congress and self-regulate and self-adjudicate, given power to make these requirements, they can do literally anything.
This is all just to deflect from Joe Biden’s failed presidency. He failed on COVID and allowed the Delta variant to happen, he failed on the economy, he failed on Afghanistan, this is just deflection.
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Should Biden Have Mandated Vaccinations Today?
by Sea Breeze inbiden mandated widespread covid shots today.. "we've been patient," biden announced.
"but our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us.".
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@disillusioned: Even though the US has the best healthcare in the world, the population is relatively old and a lot of the population is unhealthy. Hence we have a relatively high death rate compared to places like Africa or India.
There is little they can do if you get COVID. It’s been proven that intubation and assisted ventilation has been more damaging, right now they don’t (or shouldn’t) even put you on a ventilator .
The best thing to do is just let it run out while supporting the body with antivirals (these are commonly available) and cytokine inhibitors (such as Ivermectin and clones which are also commonly prescribed).
The amount of people dying are indeed a very small percentage. Currently more people die daily from Alzheimer’s than do from COVID. 10x as many people died from flu in 1918 than did from 2 years of COVID, no mandates were created back then, we just moved on.
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“The Right to Shun: Ghent’s Misguided Jehovah’s Witness Decision“ Matthew P. Cavedon
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://canopyforum.org/2021/04/19/the-right-to-shun-ghents-misguided-jehovahs-witness-decision/.
in march, the criminal court of ghent, belgium fined the congregation of jehovah’s witnesses (jw) for “inciting discrimination and hatred or violence against former members.” the case centered on the jw practice of “disfellowshipping.” while the court’s sensitivity to the individual impact of shunning is laudable, its decision regrettably assaults the freedoms of religion and association.. first, some background on jw beliefs and disfellowshipping.
jw was founded in the united states over a century ago and is headquartered in new york state.
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@JeffT: If you live in the EU - no
There are plenty of examples when it comes to Muslims, if you say following Sharia is evil for allowing a Muslim pedophile to be married to a young child, you can be convicted of hate speech (and yes, this happens) - https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/10/free-speech-sharia-european-court-of-human-rights-ruling/
You can say some things that are considered truisms (eg. Nazi's are evil and KKK is evil) but that is only because it fits in the current government narrative that only white people are bad. But if you speak out against Mecca, people from non-white origins, if you say bad things about communists, about gays or transgenders, or even simply do not agree with the demands they impose upon you to call them male/female or other pronoun, then that is considered hate speech.